Another 4 Years of American Decline?

[[N]Sloop]

Oh Lord , I do not expect something so linear from you my dear Marshal....

There are so many interesting and clever things I do not agree upon or uphold.

I find monkeys to be awefuly interesting,... not that I want to be one , and nor that Iam .

Fullin, ,your sinking to new lows. I understand you insulting Marx, after all he's a dirty pinko commie, but now you insult honorable and innocent monkeys. Ha!.. I am relieved, you had me worried you ole capitalist pig you.

[[N]Von Clausewitz]

The only way, and i mean ONLY way, to get an ideal society and not have the majority oppress the minority in a country is to go back to the founding principles that this country was built on.
ULTIMATE LIBERTARIANISM.
The least reglations possible, laissez faire mentality, and free markets.
This country is still the best on earth but it is being dangerously changed.
Next thing you know, we will be soon adressing each other as comrads.

VC

[[N]Fullin]

The founding fathers made a big mistake, a mistake shared by every democracy in the world.

Everyone is allowed to vote. And all votes count the same.
Automatic citizenship and right to vote by the mere fact of being born!

If this dont change, Libertarism will do nothing to change democracies.

Free markets push consumerism and consumerism privileges things over knowledge.
No knowledge , ignorant voters.
Where is my Obama Phone?!! cried an outraged woman during past elections.

That war cry was the starting shot of Americas downfall... see them running now...

[[N]Clinch]

The problem is the top 1 percent own the rest. They decide unilaterally what we eat, where we shop, who we can vote for, how much we pay in taxes, what we can see, what we can know, what we can learn and how much its all going to cost us. This subversion of society is happening all over the globe and by the time the people organize, it will be illegal, immoral, and an act of terrorism to have any revolution. In the words of porno for pyros "we will make great pets"

[[N]Von Clausewitz]

The problem is the top 1 percent own the rest. They decide unilaterally what we eat, where we shop, who we can vote for, how much we pay in taxes, what we can see, what we can know, what we can learn and how much its all going to cost us. This subversion of society is happening all over the globe and by the time the people organize, it will be illegal, immoral, and an act of terrorism to have any revolution. In the words of porno for pyros "we will make great pets"

Man, enough with the conspiracy theories. Are you saying that all the wealthy people in the globe get together to decide how they will screw clinch today. Do you think they have nothing better to do?
It seems to me that this is a convenient way of not taking ownership or any responsability for how things are right now.

How come with all the leakage of secrets that has been going on, not a word of a global consiparacy to herd the people. Come on man...

I agree with fullin however, not everyone should have the right to vote. If you have no skin in the game, you should not be voting.

I think voting should be limited to taxpayers (federal tax payers), seniors who have payed taxes in their lifetime and the military/veterans.

VC

[[N]Clinch]

Man, enough with the conspiracy theories. Are you saying that all the wealthy people in the globe get together to decide how they will screw clinch today. Do you think they have nothing better to do?


VC

Its called a corporation
"How come with all the leakage of secrets that has been going on, not a word of a global consiparacy to herd the people. Come on man..."
Im not saying a herd although it feels like it. Im talking about secret monopolies. Im talking about the 8 or so "corporations" that own every food and household product we use. The people who decided GMO's were fine for us and started using them. The same corporations that give bucu bucks in campaign funding (which is now literally uncapped). Monsanto is probably the biggest donation and why not, its probably a tax write off. Where do you want me to stop here VC?

[[N]Sloop]

VC, Years ago you were a republican and called me too radical for being a libertarian. I know I sound uninformed when I discuss modern medicine with you, so if you want to know what the crazy conspiracy theory guys are talking about you will have to do a little more research beyond Fox News.

What Clinch is talking about is called a "super-entity;"

http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.5728
(reference pdf. for details)

Side note worth watching;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbJIvsO9GCg

[[N]Sloop]

iNTERESTING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkB0sUzJ9Rk#t=154

Long Live TJ!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkB0sUzJ9Rk#t=973

[[N]Sloop]

Biggest Balls in America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxcMKtsm5BU

[[N]Harout]

"Participating in my church..." that's where it ended for me.